if the president can get on air force one and go to michigan and do a rally with union members talking about right to work, then i think the commander in chief can take the time to get involved and get this marine home. we live with a very simple maxim in the military. we leave no man behind. i think the president of the united states of america should not depart washington, d.c. if jon hammmar is not going home. >> gretchen: do you believe that jay carney, when he said he didn't know about it, that he didn't actually know about it, or that he wanted to rethink how he was going to answer the question and get back to the reporter? >> either up with is bad -- either one is bad. if you don't know about it, that's unconscionable. if you're trying to play games with the life this marine -- this is despicable, this picture of him chain to do a cot. this is a war veteran, someone giving to give the last full measure of devotion to this country in iraq and afghanistan. we have an administration that has seemingly turned its back on him. i think everyone should be calling the white house right